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		<title>Comment on Review by crsteussy</title>
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		<dc:creator>crsteussy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 21:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some more good stuff
http://www.ibguides.com/history/notes/domestic-and-foreign-problems-of-the-brezhnev-era-economic-and-political-stagnation-afghanistan</description>
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<a href="http://www.ibguides.com/history/notes/domestic-and-foreign-problems-of-the-brezhnev-era-economic-and-political-stagnation-afghanistan" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibguides.com/history/notes/domestic-and-foreign-problems-of-the-brezhnev-era-economic-and-political-stagnation-afghanistan</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Review by crsteussy</title>
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		<dc:creator>crsteussy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 21:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the little guy in the middle is Chiang I think.

Here&#039;s a good article on Soviet/Afghan stuff;

http://www.e-ir.info/2010/01/03/the-soviet-union%E2%80%99s-last-war/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the little guy in the middle is Chiang I think.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a good article on Soviet/Afghan stuff;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.e-ir.info/2010/01/03/the-soviet-union%E2%80%99s-last-war/" rel="nofollow">http://www.e-ir.info/2010/01/03/the-soviet-union%E2%80%99s-last-war/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Clinton by James Curry</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Curry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 06:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really tired but I really liked this chapter so I will say a couple of things and then head off to bed.

To Bryce: Yes! Hindsight &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; real important. It reminds me of Kissinger&#039;s introduction to his book, where he lends understanding to the faults of world leaders by considering they don&#039;t have the benefit of hindsight (or the benefit of unlimited time). Also: it&#039;s interesting you say that about Truman, because in the context of our history class (maybe it&#039;s just Kissinger) he seems to be remembered very fondly—his Doctrine formed the basis of American Cold War diplomacy, and I guess is said by some to have eventually brought the end of the Cold War. Again, maybe it&#039;s just Kissinger who says that, but I feel like I caught hints of that in Bret Stephens&#039; interview with Obama.

I love that &quot;Democratic Enlargement&quot; was a sort of focus-grouped concept. It seems somewhat appropriate for the 1990s, and for Clinton&#039;s highly economic mindset. Also, I love the McDonald&#039;s stuff at the end (I think I already talked about that in your last post)! I highly highly recommend George Ritzer&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The McDonaldization of Society&lt;/i&gt; because it&#039;s a great book and everyone should read it.

I really like Bill Clinton. Maybe it&#039;s because I have vague nostalgia for my preschool years? And I really like Al Gore. Maybe because I have lasting resentments from the Bush years? I don&#039;t know. It&#039;s cool to see the development of globalization and all that. I&#039;m going to bed, goodnight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really tired but I really liked this chapter so I will say a couple of things and then head off to bed.</p>
<p>To Bryce: Yes! Hindsight <i>is</i> real important. It reminds me of Kissinger&#8217;s introduction to his book, where he lends understanding to the faults of world leaders by considering they don&#8217;t have the benefit of hindsight (or the benefit of unlimited time). Also: it&#8217;s interesting you say that about Truman, because in the context of our history class (maybe it&#8217;s just Kissinger) he seems to be remembered very fondly—his Doctrine formed the basis of American Cold War diplomacy, and I guess is said by some to have eventually brought the end of the Cold War. Again, maybe it&#8217;s just Kissinger who says that, but I feel like I caught hints of that in Bret Stephens&#8217; interview with Obama.</p>
<p>I love that &#8220;Democratic Enlargement&#8221; was a sort of focus-grouped concept. It seems somewhat appropriate for the 1990s, and for Clinton&#8217;s highly economic mindset. Also, I love the McDonald&#8217;s stuff at the end (I think I already talked about that in your last post)! I highly highly recommend George Ritzer&#8217;s <i>The McDonaldization of Society</i> because it&#8217;s a great book and everyone should read it.</p>
<p>I really like Bill Clinton. Maybe it&#8217;s because I have vague nostalgia for my preschool years? And I really like Al Gore. Maybe because I have lasting resentments from the Bush years? I don&#8217;t know. It&#8217;s cool to see the development of globalization and all that. I&#8217;m going to bed, goodnight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Clinton by Bryce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 14:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really struck me how hindsight makes such a difference in the writing of history.  As I&#039;ve heard, Clinton&#039;s presidency has been viewed as somewhat of a success, especially in terms of the debt reversal from a federal deficit to a surplus.  I&#039;ve begun to come to the conclusion that history is kind of an &quot;all&#039;s-well-that-ends-well,&quot; especially in terms of presidencies.  Truman isn&#039;t generally looked upon as an overly popular president (only serving one elected term), perhaps because he &quot;led&quot; the country into the second world war.  Similarly, Clinton is portrayed rather favorably by history, and I assume it is mostly because of his domestic policies and elimination of the national debt.

Clinton&#039;s attitude toward foreign policy was a bit amusing.  He began by ignoring it, then using &quot;band-aid&quot; diplomacy, to finally claiming it had meshed with domestic policy and should fly under the same banner, so to speak.  I&#039;ve always kind of had the impression that Clinton wasn&#039;t a particularly good president (not that he was a bad one at all, just that he didn&#039;t have much of a plan or scheme or ideal that set him apart), and that his term was successful due to a myriad of outside reasons and that he facilitated it well.  I&#039;m not quite phrasing this right...oh well.  Anyway, Clinton certainly seems to me more remembered for his successes than his failures, except perhaps in the case of Monica Lewinski.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really struck me how hindsight makes such a difference in the writing of history.  As I&#8217;ve heard, Clinton&#8217;s presidency has been viewed as somewhat of a success, especially in terms of the debt reversal from a federal deficit to a surplus.  I&#8217;ve begun to come to the conclusion that history is kind of an &#8220;all&#8217;s-well-that-ends-well,&#8221; especially in terms of presidencies.  Truman isn&#8217;t generally looked upon as an overly popular president (only serving one elected term), perhaps because he &#8220;led&#8221; the country into the second world war.  Similarly, Clinton is portrayed rather favorably by history, and I assume it is mostly because of his domestic policies and elimination of the national debt.</p>
<p>Clinton&#8217;s attitude toward foreign policy was a bit amusing.  He began by ignoring it, then using &#8220;band-aid&#8221; diplomacy, to finally claiming it had meshed with domestic policy and should fly under the same banner, so to speak.  I&#8217;ve always kind of had the impression that Clinton wasn&#8217;t a particularly good president (not that he was a bad one at all, just that he didn&#8217;t have much of a plan or scheme or ideal that set him apart), and that his term was successful due to a myriad of outside reasons and that he facilitated it well.  I&#8217;m not quite phrasing this right&#8230;oh well.  Anyway, Clinton certainly seems to me more remembered for his successes than his failures, except perhaps in the case of Monica Lewinski.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A New World Order by James Curry</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Curry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 01:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh hey, I haven&#039;t commented on this yet!

So first, let me say that this last reading was bittersweet. It&#039;s exciting to finish, but I have to admit that I&#039;m a little sad to say goodbye to Ambrose and Kissinger. Now what am I going to do with my time? Read &lt;i&gt;novels&lt;/i&gt;? Do &lt;i&gt;art&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;hang out with friends&lt;/i&gt;? Play &lt;i&gt;Pokemon&lt;/i&gt;? (Answer: probably that last one.)

(Also, I think I skipped ahead because I want to talk about Democratic Enlargement and McDonald&#039;s but we&#039;re not there yet.)

All this talk of &quot;world orders&quot; is really interesting. I love the idea of Kissinger wandering around all despondent at the close of the 20th century, now that the world seems to be devoid of meaning. That&#039;s the impression I get from this final chapter and from Fukuyama&#039;s essay. I mean, maybe it&#039;s cool that the Cold War is &quot;over&quot;? Maybe we can focus on more important stuff? Maybe we can finally pay attention to the &quot;third world&quot; (a Cold War term, if I&#039;m not mistaken, which I think is real indicative of the era&#039;s focus on the superpowers)?

Maybe I&#039;m simply idealistic, but it seems like the end of massive ideological conflict is a &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; thing. And I mean, it&#039;s not like conflict is &lt;i&gt;gone&lt;/i&gt;, it exists in many shape in forms, both domestic and international, military and economic, ideological and material. It just seems strange to lament the death of the balance of powers and spheres of influence; to me such orders seem antiquated in a post-colonialist globalized world. Kissinger&#039;s analysis reads to me a lot like an old man scared and confused by the new world he&#039;s found himself in, so different from the one of his youth.

That&#039;s not to say that Kissinger&#039;s analysis isn&#039;t lucid or intelligent. I also like thinking of it the way Lauren described it to me: as Kissinger detailing his advice for world leaders in getting along in this new world. He puts down some compelling arguments, I think made stronger by the history he details extensively throughout the rest of the book. So, I guess, the real point, is that &lt;i&gt;no one&lt;/i&gt; knows how everything is going to turn out, and the destruction of our previous guiding narrative really does make it more difficult to predict possible outcomes for international relations. In Ambrose&#039;s final chapter, we seem to get a taste of a new narrative being formed by Clinton and the forces of globalization. What I hope, I guess, is that we can move this narrative away from competition between superpowers and towards the hard work of making the world a better place to live in for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh hey, I haven&#8217;t commented on this yet!</p>
<p>So first, let me say that this last reading was bittersweet. It&#8217;s exciting to finish, but I have to admit that I&#8217;m a little sad to say goodbye to Ambrose and Kissinger. Now what am I going to do with my time? Read <i>novels</i>? Do <i>art</i> or <i>hang out with friends</i>? Play <i>Pokemon</i>? (Answer: probably that last one.)</p>
<p>(Also, I think I skipped ahead because I want to talk about Democratic Enlargement and McDonald&#8217;s but we&#8217;re not there yet.)</p>
<p>All this talk of &#8220;world orders&#8221; is really interesting. I love the idea of Kissinger wandering around all despondent at the close of the 20th century, now that the world seems to be devoid of meaning. That&#8217;s the impression I get from this final chapter and from Fukuyama&#8217;s essay. I mean, maybe it&#8217;s cool that the Cold War is &#8220;over&#8221;? Maybe we can focus on more important stuff? Maybe we can finally pay attention to the &#8220;third world&#8221; (a Cold War term, if I&#8217;m not mistaken, which I think is real indicative of the era&#8217;s focus on the superpowers)?</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m simply idealistic, but it seems like the end of massive ideological conflict is a <i>good</i> thing. And I mean, it&#8217;s not like conflict is <i>gone</i>, it exists in many shape in forms, both domestic and international, military and economic, ideological and material. It just seems strange to lament the death of the balance of powers and spheres of influence; to me such orders seem antiquated in a post-colonialist globalized world. Kissinger&#8217;s analysis reads to me a lot like an old man scared and confused by the new world he&#8217;s found himself in, so different from the one of his youth.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that Kissinger&#8217;s analysis isn&#8217;t lucid or intelligent. I also like thinking of it the way Lauren described it to me: as Kissinger detailing his advice for world leaders in getting along in this new world. He puts down some compelling arguments, I think made stronger by the history he details extensively throughout the rest of the book. So, I guess, the real point, is that <i>no one</i> knows how everything is going to turn out, and the destruction of our previous guiding narrative really does make it more difficult to predict possible outcomes for international relations. In Ambrose&#8217;s final chapter, we seem to get a taste of a new narrative being formed by Clinton and the forces of globalization. What I hope, I guess, is that we can move this narrative away from competition between superpowers and towards the hard work of making the world a better place to live in for everyone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A New World Order by Bryce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 03:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last chapter and this one, Kissinger made quite a fuss about Wilsonianism.  The thing is...I&#039;m not quite clear what it is, at least in Kissinger&#039;s perspective.  I looked it up, and according to Wiki it was (at a base level): 
Advocacy of the spread of Democracy
Advocacy of the spread of Capitalism
Anti-isolationism and non-interventionism
Pro-Imperialism, in favor of intervention to further national self-interest.
I always thought it had a mildly nationalist spin, but I could be wrong.

&quot;Victory in the Cold War had made it far more difficult to implement the Wilsonian dream of universal collective security.&quot;  I thought this quote was interesting, in part because it seemed so counterintuitive.  I mean, victory--wiping out the Communist &quot;evil empire&quot;--was not necesarily beneficial for the spread of democracy?  I&#039;ll take a leap and say that now that the smaller countries are not united agaist a common enemy, there is less attraction to democracy, as nations don&#039;t have to choose sides: rather than Communist or Democratic, they can maneuver themself somewhere inbetween without fearing being condemned for siding with the USSR and the failed Soviet system.

Anyway, I hardly think this is the end of history.  I don&#039;t know what will become of America--we will likely remain among the world powers for some time now due to our current position, but whether we will continue to maintain our position for centuries to come is unforseeable.  I doubt anyone, especially Kissinger, would have guessed about the economic crises in Greece and Spain and the EU, given his rather Eurocentric beliefs.  I guess we&#039;ll have to see where we&#039;ll end up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last chapter and this one, Kissinger made quite a fuss about Wilsonianism.  The thing is&#8230;I&#8217;m not quite clear what it is, at least in Kissinger&#8217;s perspective.  I looked it up, and according to Wiki it was (at a base level):<br />
Advocacy of the spread of Democracy<br />
Advocacy of the spread of Capitalism<br />
Anti-isolationism and non-interventionism<br />
Pro-Imperialism, in favor of intervention to further national self-interest.<br />
I always thought it had a mildly nationalist spin, but I could be wrong.</p>
<p>&#8220;Victory in the Cold War had made it far more difficult to implement the Wilsonian dream of universal collective security.&#8221;  I thought this quote was interesting, in part because it seemed so counterintuitive.  I mean, victory&#8211;wiping out the Communist &#8220;evil empire&#8221;&#8211;was not necesarily beneficial for the spread of democracy?  I&#8217;ll take a leap and say that now that the smaller countries are not united agaist a common enemy, there is less attraction to democracy, as nations don&#8217;t have to choose sides: rather than Communist or Democratic, they can maneuver themself somewhere inbetween without fearing being condemned for siding with the USSR and the failed Soviet system.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hardly think this is the end of history.  I don&#8217;t know what will become of America&#8211;we will likely remain among the world powers for some time now due to our current position, but whether we will continue to maintain our position for centuries to come is unforseeable.  I doubt anyone, especially Kissinger, would have guessed about the economic crises in Greece and Spain and the EU, given his rather Eurocentric beliefs.  I guess we&#8217;ll have to see where we&#8217;ll end up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reagan &amp; Kissinger by Bryce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
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		<description>The portrait Kissinger painted of Reagan was interesting, to say the least.  At first, it seemed like he was portraying him as a blithering idiot: he knew &quot;next to no history&quot; and &quot;treated biblical references to Armageddon as operational predictions,&quot; not to mention Kissinger&#039;s adoring quote, &quot;When you talk to Reagan, you sometimes wonder why it occurred to anyone that he should be resident, or even governor.&quot;  Nevertheless, I think Kissinger actually didn&#039;t think too poorly of Reagan, at least not as much as Ambrose and Brinkly.  He commends Reagans sense of direction, strength of conviction, and overall charisma, to which it seems he pins much of Reagan&#039;s popularity and even success in office.

Kissinger also spends the first few pages of the chapter discussing how backward of a nation the Soviet Union was.  He notes that it was practically doomed to failure due to its overextension and its leaders, who overestimated its strength and were unable to clearly see what a weak system the current Communist government truely was.  In terms of Gorbachev, Kissinger almost painst him as an idealist, in that while Gorby may have truely wanted to improve the Soviet Union, he simply did not understand the true reprications of his actions, and that the USSR was not a structure that easily welcomed big altercations, or rather any changes at all.

One part of the chapter I found to be hilarious was Kissinger&#039;s affrontedness at Reagan&#039;s comparison of Gorbachev and Bismark.  I feel like Kissinger almost reveres Bismark, and feels that only he himself has the right to make obscure comparisons to the great leader.  I mean, maybe it wasn&#039;t an apt comparison, but Kissinger seems overly perturbed that his favorite statesman could ever be compared to the leader of a collapsing nation.  I thought his reaction to the whole thing was rather amusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The portrait Kissinger painted of Reagan was interesting, to say the least.  At first, it seemed like he was portraying him as a blithering idiot: he knew &#8220;next to no history&#8221; and &#8220;treated biblical references to Armageddon as operational predictions,&#8221; not to mention Kissinger&#8217;s adoring quote, &#8220;When you talk to Reagan, you sometimes wonder why it occurred to anyone that he should be resident, or even governor.&#8221;  Nevertheless, I think Kissinger actually didn&#8217;t think too poorly of Reagan, at least not as much as Ambrose and Brinkly.  He commends Reagans sense of direction, strength of conviction, and overall charisma, to which it seems he pins much of Reagan&#8217;s popularity and even success in office.</p>
<p>Kissinger also spends the first few pages of the chapter discussing how backward of a nation the Soviet Union was.  He notes that it was practically doomed to failure due to its overextension and its leaders, who overestimated its strength and were unable to clearly see what a weak system the current Communist government truely was.  In terms of Gorbachev, Kissinger almost painst him as an idealist, in that while Gorby may have truely wanted to improve the Soviet Union, he simply did not understand the true reprications of his actions, and that the USSR was not a structure that easily welcomed big altercations, or rather any changes at all.</p>
<p>One part of the chapter I found to be hilarious was Kissinger&#8217;s affrontedness at Reagan&#8217;s comparison of Gorbachev and Bismark.  I feel like Kissinger almost reveres Bismark, and feels that only he himself has the right to make obscure comparisons to the great leader.  I mean, maybe it wasn&#8217;t an apt comparison, but Kissinger seems overly perturbed that his favorite statesman could ever be compared to the leader of a collapsing nation.  I thought his reaction to the whole thing was rather amusing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reagan &amp; Kissinger by James Curry</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Curry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 03:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kissinger&#039;s closing analysis was fascinating: &quot;The Cold War had been almost made to order to American preconceptions. There had been a dominant ideological challenge rendering universal maxims, however oversimplified, applicable to most of the world&#039;s problems. And there had been a clear and present military threat, and its source had been unambiguous&quot; (802).

I love the idea that the Cold War was especially appropriate for the United States, as it filled our need for conflict to be clear, ideological, and manichean. It&#039;s so interesting because I feel like, in more recent years (i.e. the last decade), that has kept the US in a Cold War mentality and into a lot of trouble—as Kissinger puts it, &quot;America&#039;s travails—from Suez to Vietnam—resulted from its application of universal principles to specific cases which proved inhospitable to them&quot; (802). So much analysis of the Cold War points it towards being something that the American psyche &lt;i&gt;needs&lt;/i&gt; and desires—I saw hints of this in Fukuyama&#039;s article, too. But I wonder: &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; we need this? Is it harmful? Do we need to &quot;develop some definition of [our] national interest&quot; (803)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kissinger&#8217;s closing analysis was fascinating: &#8220;The Cold War had been almost made to order to American preconceptions. There had been a dominant ideological challenge rendering universal maxims, however oversimplified, applicable to most of the world&#8217;s problems. And there had been a clear and present military threat, and its source had been unambiguous&#8221; (802).</p>
<p>I love the idea that the Cold War was especially appropriate for the United States, as it filled our need for conflict to be clear, ideological, and manichean. It&#8217;s so interesting because I feel like, in more recent years (i.e. the last decade), that has kept the US in a Cold War mentality and into a lot of trouble—as Kissinger puts it, &#8220;America&#8217;s travails—from Suez to Vietnam—resulted from its application of universal principles to specific cases which proved inhospitable to them&#8221; (802). So much analysis of the Cold War points it towards being something that the American psyche <i>needs</i> and desires—I saw hints of this in Fukuyama&#8217;s article, too. But I wonder: <i>do</i> we need this? Is it harmful? Do we need to &#8220;develop some definition of [our] national interest&#8221; (803)?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bush and the Gulf War by Bryce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush didn&#039;t bother with Serbia because it didn&#039;t have any economic or political international significance.  Once on the front of the Cold War, the end of the conflict with Russia (as evidenced by our aparently surprising alliance in regards to Iraq) left Serbia almost irrelevant, and I&#039;m with Jimmy when he says that oil was behind the whole affair in the Middle East.  Sure, we send them food, but Bush&#039;s government was more designed with the idea of preserving America&#039;s wellbeing.  If we had still been under Carter&#039;s human rights foreign policy, it may have been different, although for better or for worse I cannot say.

I feel like as the chapters wear on, Ambrose and Brinkly make more and more references to previous events in history.  Hussein is Hitler, the Iraq War is Vietnam, Tienanmen Square is Hungary all over again...I guess one could argue that history does repeat itself.  Much of the time, though, I certainly feel the comparisons are made more to make an impact rather than being completely accurate.  I mean, there are only so many situations that can be another Vietnam, or so many men that can be considered another Hitler...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush didn&#8217;t bother with Serbia because it didn&#8217;t have any economic or political international significance.  Once on the front of the Cold War, the end of the conflict with Russia (as evidenced by our aparently surprising alliance in regards to Iraq) left Serbia almost irrelevant, and I&#8217;m with Jimmy when he says that oil was behind the whole affair in the Middle East.  Sure, we send them food, but Bush&#8217;s government was more designed with the idea of preserving America&#8217;s wellbeing.  If we had still been under Carter&#8217;s human rights foreign policy, it may have been different, although for better or for worse I cannot say.</p>
<p>I feel like as the chapters wear on, Ambrose and Brinkly make more and more references to previous events in history.  Hussein is Hitler, the Iraq War is Vietnam, Tienanmen Square is Hungary all over again&#8230;I guess one could argue that history does repeat itself.  Much of the time, though, I certainly feel the comparisons are made more to make an impact rather than being completely accurate.  I mean, there are only so many situations that can be another Vietnam, or so many men that can be considered another Hitler&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bush and the Gulf War by Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the website I looked at, George W. Bush&#039;s approval rating after 9/11 (on the 21st of September to be exact) was at 90%. So, they were equal in magnitude.

I thought the most interesting thing about this reading was the importance Ambrose and Brinkley gave to Bush&#039;s comparisons between Hussein and Hitler. He claimed that these were a double-edged sword: it allowed Bush to push Iraq out of Kuwait with every bit of manpower he could, but it also implied that Bush intended to occupy Iraq after the fighting and restore a people-approved government. Ambrose criticizes Bush for this and for not having a clear enough vision for the end of the war. I assume that Ambrose argues the negative implication of the Hitler comparison with some authority--it must have been a popular enough notion at the time. However, it didn&#039;t seem like Bush thought his words had that implication. At the end of the war, he did not feel compelled to assert control over the state of Iraq, nor did he feel compelled to apologise for not doing as many thought he would. Ambrose&#039;s narrative gives me the impression he never even considered it, but I suppose it could have been that he wasn&#039;t going to validate an unofficial declaration that he decided against.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the website I looked at, George W. Bush&#8217;s approval rating after 9/11 (on the 21st of September to be exact) was at 90%. So, they were equal in magnitude.</p>
<p>I thought the most interesting thing about this reading was the importance Ambrose and Brinkley gave to Bush&#8217;s comparisons between Hussein and Hitler. He claimed that these were a double-edged sword: it allowed Bush to push Iraq out of Kuwait with every bit of manpower he could, but it also implied that Bush intended to occupy Iraq after the fighting and restore a people-approved government. Ambrose criticizes Bush for this and for not having a clear enough vision for the end of the war. I assume that Ambrose argues the negative implication of the Hitler comparison with some authority&#8211;it must have been a popular enough notion at the time. However, it didn&#8217;t seem like Bush thought his words had that implication. At the end of the war, he did not feel compelled to assert control over the state of Iraq, nor did he feel compelled to apologise for not doing as many thought he would. Ambrose&#8217;s narrative gives me the impression he never even considered it, but I suppose it could have been that he wasn&#8217;t going to validate an unofficial declaration that he decided against.</p>
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